tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7558508727254119943.post4801160145117209527..comments2023-08-01T21:01:12.045+12:00Comments on The Ladder: The Price of BeerDominichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00874844742048406527noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7558508727254119943.post-69037184475594383552013-05-13T23:31:32.240+12:002013-05-13T23:31:32.240+12:00Wages as sin. Brilliant. An anonymous, biblical tr...Wages as sin. Brilliant. An anonymous, biblical troll.Dominichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09858038384567580623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7558508727254119943.post-40745509739822305712013-05-13T23:16:35.152+12:002013-05-13T23:16:35.152+12:00The massively over-inflated cost base in NZ/Aus (w...The massively over-inflated cost base in NZ/Aus (wages, utility, rent, etc) is the real killer here. That 150-200% markup hides a lot of sin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7558508727254119943.post-19677515755386530732013-05-13T16:00:23.845+12:002013-05-13T16:00:23.845+12:00And the home-brewing revolution marches forward......And the home-brewing revolution marches forward...Adrianhttp://brewsmith.com.aunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7558508727254119943.post-23266109895525262482013-01-12T15:36:56.264+13:002013-01-12T15:36:56.264+13:00Since I moved to Melbourne here in Oz 3 years ago ...Since I moved to Melbourne here in Oz 3 years ago I have seen the price of the same beer go from $8.50-$9/pint to $11-$12 ($13.80-$15NZ) in most places. Some bars I have been (dragged) to are now charging $15 for a pint of James Squires. I put this substantially down to the increasing popularity of craft beers (not james squires...) and that bars know that now they can chuck another $2/pint on top of their previous prices and that people will still pay it because the only other option is to drink Carlton Draught. Nathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7558508727254119943.post-78366337289064164822013-01-08T11:23:37.259+13:002013-01-08T11:23:37.259+13:00And a pint of good ale in an Edinburgh pub is abou...And a pint of good ale in an Edinburgh pub is about £3.50. $7-8. The markup between supermarket and pub prices is drastically less. alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11367552429432323833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7558508727254119943.post-63661890849261033852012-11-16T13:13:17.552+13:002012-11-16T13:13:17.552+13:00The cost of quality beer in New Zealand has very l...The cost of quality beer in New Zealand has very little to do with the cost of production. As with of many things here, the price is mostly a consequence of there not being a functioning market. In larger countries prices are driven down by competition until they reach a level below which brewers will go out of business. In New Zealand the price norm for quality beer is dictated by the very limited distribution channels, and because of New Zealand’s isolation many consumers don’t recognise they are getting a poor deal. <br /><br />Brewers might argue that their costs are much higher than their American counterparts, but that is not necessarily the cause of the high retail cost beer. It is more likely an effect of artificially high retail prices. This allows inefficient brewers to stay in business and pushes up the price norm for raw material and equipment. <br /><br />The price of grain, in particular, has only a marginal effect on the cost of production. I don’t know what the commercial cost of grain in the US is, but the cost to the home brewer is very similar to that in NZ. In the UK the cost of a 500ml bottle of quality beer in a supermarket is approximately UKP1.50 = NZ$3 – about one third of the cost of a comparable NZ product. There is no grain subsidy in the UK and duty is approximately 50% higher than NZ.<br />Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01713515836604040064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7558508727254119943.post-73520328102504468092012-11-16T11:43:00.671+13:002012-11-16T11:43:00.671+13:00From Rob Singers...
Under the US farm bills (http...From Rob Singers...<br /><br />Under the US farm bills (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._farm_bill) there are massive amounts of subsidies paid to grain producers. Basically they are paid to over produce, and the resulting surplus is used for aid programs or to make things like high fructose corn syrup. Leaing to rampent supersizing and HFC in everything from hamburger buns to baby formula.<br /> <br />I'd suspect that this is the cause of price difference between the US and NZ and AU. The fact that you have AU having a greater basic cost than NZ, when most gain used in NZ is imported from AU is probably a reflect of the higher labour and compliance cost in AU.<br /> <br />The back story to the US subsidies goes back to the 50s when the Russian harvest failed; it may have been several in a row but I don't have any sources on Russian agriculture to check :-) The US producers made a fortune selling rain to the USSR which lead to a massive political backlash. The right wing paranoids decided that the Russians were trying to deplete the US food stocks so they could invade and conduct a war of attrition. The solution was to pay the farmers to grow two-three time as much food as the US needed every year to make sure there was never a threat to the food supply.<br />Dominichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09858038384567580623noreply@blogger.com